Contrarian Investing
Contratian Investing is a method of moving against the crowd, which relies heavily on a broad understanding of investor pyschology, and when done successfully, you will appear to have seen the future. Sun Tzu advised his generals to devise strategues that deceived their opponents, wore them out, and put them at natural disadvantages. Rational investors will have a natural advantage during time of excessive bull market optimism and bear market pessimism. The key to recognizing such dangers and opportunities is to remain loyal to your Sun Tzu-style assessments, continue screening stocks one at a time and remain focused on determined business value. Your discipline will help you avoid paying too much during bull markets and enhance your confidence to buy bargains during bear markets. You will become a rational contrarian and your peers will think you have seen the future (or lost your mind).
Contratian Investing is one of those terms often misunderstood. A contrarian investor doesn't move against the popular crowd simply for the sake of being different. The true contrarian is a strategic investor whose disciplined approach to stock selection is often at odds with the current trend. If you stick to any particular investing style, be it based on low asset valuations, high earnings growth rates, or high dividend yields, there will be period of times when your style will be in line with the popular thinking, and other times when it will run contrary to the style of the day.
The more long-term focused your strategy, the more likely it will be at odds with popular market trends. Contrasting styles of investing often result from investors' perspectives of the stock market. Chartists, technical analysts and speculators are looking at the short term price movement patterns in the hope they can glean some sense of a trend, able to predict what other investors are thinking. They are trying to understand the emotions of other investors and profit by anticipating their next move. As their guessing game becomes more sophisticatedm and everyone is observing the same charts - the professional guessers must now predict how the other predictors are guessing about how emotions of the majority investors will affect short-term price movements - this quickly becomes a frustrating guess-what-the-guessers-are-guessing game with no likely winners.
Taken from Mary Buffett's The New Buffettology
CONTRARIAN INVESTMENT STRATEGY VERVSUS SELECTIVE CONTRARIAN INVESTMENT STRATEGY
In a contrarian investment strategy, the investor buys stocks that have recently performed poorly and have fallen out of favor with investors. This strategy is based on the stock research of Eugene Fama and Kenneth French, who figured out that buying companies that have had their stock prices beaten down in the two previous years are likely to give investors an above-average return over the next two years. This strategy focuses on falling stock prices and pays little mind to the underlying economics of the companies. With the traditional contrarian investment strategy investors don’t discriminate between price-competitive-type businesses and companies that possess a durable competitive advantage. So long as the share price has recently fallen, the stock is a candidate for purchase.
A selective contrarian investment strategy – Warren’s approach – dictates that investors buy shares only when a company has a durable competitive advantage, and only when its stock price has been beaten down by a shortsighted market, to the extent that it makes business sense to purchase the entire market. This strategy differs from the traditional contrarian investment strategy in that it targets specific companies that have an identifiable strategy in that it targets specific companies that have an identifiable durable competitive advantage over their competitors and are selling at a price that a private business owner would find attractive.
Taken from Mary Buffett's The New Buffettology
CONTRARIAN INVESTMENT STRATEGY VERVSUS SELECTIVE CONTRARIAN INVESTMENT STRATEGY
In a contrarian investment strategy, the investor buys stocks that have recently performed poorly and have fallen out of favor with investors. This strategy is based on the stock research of Eugene Fama and Kenneth French, who figured out that buying companies that have had their stock prices beaten down in the two previous years are likely to give investors an above-average return over the next two years. This strategy focuses on falling stock prices and pays little mind to the underlying economics of the companies. With the traditional contrarian investment strategy investors don’t discriminate between price-competitive-type businesses and companies that possess a durable competitive advantage. So long as the share price has recently fallen, the stock is a candidate for purchase.
A selective contrarian investment strategy – Warren’s approach – dictates that investors buy shares only when a company has a durable competitive advantage, and only when its stock price has been beaten down by a shortsighted market, to the extent that it makes business sense to purchase the entire market. This strategy differs from the traditional contrarian investment strategy in that it targets specific companies that have an identifiable strategy in that it targets specific companies that have an identifiable durable competitive advantage over their competitors and are selling at a price that a private business owner would find attractive.
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In a contrarian investment strategy, the investor buys stocks that have recently performed poorly and have fallen out of favor with investors. This strategy is based on the stock research of Eugene Fama and Kenneth French, who figured out that buying companies that have had their stock prices beaten down in the two previous years are likely to give investors an above-average return over the next two years.As you are very well aware that the market is full of risks. And the success of an investor or even a trader depends on how well they acknowledge and manage their risk.
Let me give u some of my views. Not sure u would agree... but here goes...
So firstly i would try to understand the theory.
The main assumption in this strategy is that all beated down stocks will one day rise again.
Which basically saying is that all stock price movements are cyclical. Stocks will have their up and their down days.
So where could one go wrong?
1.How safe is our purchase price? What if the beaten down stock gets more beaten? Or simply put... is it time to buy now?
2.Yes, in general ... most stocks that get beaten down... will rise again... but what if it rebound does not past my purchase price? Meaning will the recovery be worthwhile? Will it be profitable?
3.What if the stock i chose in the beaten down industry does not rise?
4.What if shit happens? Beaten down stock gets beaten down because it is so poor fundamenetally. And the real danger is what if it turns into a real disaster? yup... what if the stock really goes DOWN under?
5. How long would it take for this recovery to happen? Say if we buy the stock now.. seeing that the stock price is beaten down... what if this recovery takes much longer than we expected? Will the stock price hold?
Well these are the questions i think that require much thinking. In fact, me myself, cannot give you a logical answer to all of it because the bottom line is that the answers to the questions is itself unpredictable.
Which is why... in my opinion... what Mary Buffett wrote in her book, The New Buffettology , about her ex-father-in-law is a rather more useful approach.
A selective contrarian investment strategy – Warren’s approach – dictates that investors buy shares only when a company has a durable competitive advantage, and only when its stock price has been beaten down by a shortsighted market, to the extent that it makes business sense to purchase the entire market. This strategy differs from the traditional contrarian investment strategy in that it targets specific companies that have an identifiable strategy in that it targets specific companies that have an identifiable durable competitive advantage over their competitors and are selling at a price that a private business owner would find attractive.
Which basically means that the beaten down stocks must represents companies which has a durable competitive advantage.
Companies that are of good quality.
This, i believe will help the investor safeguard themselves versus the issues that i had written earlier.
This would be my contrarian approach.
Being contrary just for the sake of betting against the crowd?
That's rather silly in my opinion. :D
Cheers!
moola,
ReplyDeleteI think I need more time to digest your post. Your update is so frequent.
Cheers,
Ah Bull
Ah Bull,
ReplyDeleteIt's kinda very simple.
Most folks use the stock price as the main reason for using the contrarian approach in their investing.
Well, is this really investing or is one simply betting that the stock price will rebound?
Cheers
moola,
ReplyDeletemmm...I agree with you.
A lot of investors like jump in when its stock price drops 20-30%, Besides "cheap", I think they are actually betting the stock price will rebound soon.
However, they never notice that those who held a large position could take the opportunity (Because the buyers suddenly increased) to unload immediately.
So what will happen after that? It become cheaper so that they can average down before it drops to zero.
Anyway, Gong Xi Fatt Cai to you and your readers! Fatt lor....
Ah Bull,
ReplyDeleteThere are many of has managed to churn out great profits via betting on rebounds (TR - technical rebounds) after a stock has fallen drastically.
However, they need to adpot the right attitude and mindset if they want to use such a strategy, for they are merely betting on this TR thingy.
This attititude and mindset is important because if the TR does not happen, then they really need to adopt the CUT-LOSS asap because their bet is simply flawed. And the worse thing they could ever, ever do is to turn this bet into a long term investing. And because they do not have the right attitude, they will fail to acknowledge their mistakes. And I've seen many a fortunes lost due to this issue!
ps..
http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.com/2005/10/bear-market-rallies.html
"Think of yourself standing on the corner of a high building in a hurricane with a bag of feathers. Throw the feathers in the air. You don't know how high they will go. You don't know how far they will go. Above all, you don't know how long they will stay up. Yet you know one thing with absolute certainty: eventually on some unknown flight path, at an unknown time, at an unknown location, the feathers will hit the ground, absolutely, guaranteed. These are situations where you absolutely know the outcome of a long-term interval, though you absolutely cannot know the short-term periods in between. That is almost perfectly analogous to the stock market."
That one hor.. makes good sense hor... a falling stock just doesn't fall down straight away.. there will be technical rebounds in stages... and those that fails to understand this.. will be seduced, trapped and made a fool out of their money by the TRs...
Ah bull, many thanks for your kind wishes and i hope that this new year brings you good fortune to you and your family.
Cheers!
Gong xi .. gong xi...