Showing posts with label ESOS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ESOS. Show all posts

Monday, September 24, 2007

Uchi and its ESOS

Some interesting comments posted on Review Of Uchi Again.

ywt06 said:


  • The greatest investor, warren buffett said esos is not good for the shareholders as it has dilution effect.

    In the other hands, esos is a way to motivate the employees to work hard for the company?

    share buy back is essential if a company continues to issue new shares under esos ....

My reply:

  • Motivation?This issue got me wondering at times. Why do employees of plc needs so much monetary motivation for them to perform?

    Uchi ESOS. Isn't the size of the ESOS simply too excessive?
And regarding the issue of share buyback being essential if a company continues to issue new shares.

Sorry, I for one strongly disagree.

The danger here is clear. The share buyback could be easily be abused. Share buyback could be made to support the share price. Which ultimately could be abused to benefit the ESOS being granted listing during the same period.

In general, share buybacks and listing of ESOS occurring at the same period is simply a big no no for me.

ywt06 continues:
  • well, we need to face the fact. salary and benefits are always the most important factor you work for a company. how many people are working for job satisfaction without considering compensation?it is another way to retain the employees as well ...however, from a shareholder stand point, i disagree ESOS ...

And this probably states exactly the delicate issue of motivation and looking after the well being of the shareholders of company.

I do strongly agree that employees of a company needs to be taken well care. No doubt about it. A happy employee is probably the better foundation of a strong business.

However, let's look at this ESOS again or rather Uchi's ESOS again since it's our focus. ( Click here for the announcement: ESOS ). And they say a picture says a thousand words. If one opens the wordfile attached to the announcement, one would have seen the following table.




Before the ESOS, Uchi has 372.392 million shares.
After the ESOS, Uchi will have 455.213 million shares.

An increase of around 22% new shares in Uchi.

Now, from an investor perspective, this ESOS will see by earnings diluted by some 22% once all these ESOS are exercised. Now surely, as an investor, I would ask why does this company, Uchi, needs a whopping 22% ESOS as motivation?

Would you think that it is simply excessive?

Saturday, September 22, 2007

Review Of Uchi Again.

Back in 2005, I wrote some notes on Uchi. I used the investing from a business perspective on Uchi.

  • From a business perspective, that is, if i were to be approached by someone and offered a stake or a partnership in a business, one of the very first thing, I would like to know is how profitable this company is.

The following table highlights what Uchi has done since listing.

Back then in 2005, I wrote the following notes.

  • Over the years, profit margin was increased despite the increase in sales. Look at 1999. Uchi had a net profit margin of 38.7% with a sales turnover of 51.5 million. Fast forward to fy 2004. Uchi sales is now 115.352 million. Sales have doubled since 1999. And the net profit for fy 2004 is now 54.4%. So despite doubling its sales, i would dare say that Uchi had not compromised on its profit margins. Uchi had not taken any shortcut to success. They did not do any sales pumping to achieve these good results. (Yes ... no artificial engineering of sales/profit growth!)

    What kind of business product/services can achieve such result? Doesn't it show that Uchi has a strong competitive product to achieve such result (we are talking about a 6 years track record!)?

    And if Uchi's product was a fly-by-night product... there was no way it could last so long, rite?

    Considering the issue where bees are so attracted where ever there is honey, in business, with Uchi enjoying such grand profitability, one would surely imagine that some competitor would come and challenge Uchi for the honey, rite?

    Again by comparing with the end financial results, we can see that it would appear that with Uchi's profitability remaining so strong, it would suggest that no competitor has managed to break Uchi's stranglehold. Am i wrong to make such assumption?

So was I wrong to make such an assumption? The table above has shown that Uchi performance since fy 2005 has still been as impressive. Uchi earned some 83 million for its fy 2006, which works out to an extremely impressive annual compounded earnings growth (CAGR) of over 23% since its fy 2000, where it only earned some 23 million.

However, I would not get too overly engrossed with numbers. Numbers can be represented in many different ways. Take the simple CAGR issue. If the initial comparison point used was 2003, the CAGR would have been different. Back in fy 2003, Uchi earned some 58 million. Uchi's earnings in fy 2006 was some 83 million. This would work to a CAGR of only some 12.6%!

See the different interpretation?

And yes, some numbers lovers would proclaimed that perhaps Uchi's earnings growth is showing some clear signs of slowing down the recent years.

Is there a right or wrong here?

Not really. For me it's mere interpretation of numbers.

And I still recall this fantastic set of comments made to me from a friend on this growth issue which was mentioned in this blog posting: ROI on Uchi: Part II

  • Altho' earnings growth has peaked and no more returning 12% per annum BUT financials and margins are still great, is there a problem? Wouldnt it come a time when every biz would have to go thru a consolidation cycle? The fact that growth has slowed but if amply compensated by higher revenue translating into better financials, isnt it a stock worth holding?An analogy from a trader's perspective, after a spike in price, a stock usually consolidates at a certain range - this is a price range where an equilibrium of buyers and sellers can agree to trade. Now, the next phase of movement will then be dictated by whether the buying or selling is greater than the other and u then take appropriate action. Do i sell into a consolidation? No, I dont. Any similarities here?

How? Is Uchi going through a consolidation cycle?

Take these comments from CIMB research published on Aug 2007 on Uchi's quarterly earnings.

  • Below expectations. Uchi’s annualised 1H07 earnings missed our forecast by 8% and were 12% short of consensus. 2Q net profit edged up just 2.1% yoy and 2.5% qoq because of revenue growth of only 4% yoy and 3.1% qoq. While we acknowledge that 3Q is the peak earnings period due to higher billings for coffee makers ahead of the 4Q festive season, we believe that full-year earnings will fall short of our estimate. As expected, the company did not declare any dividends.

See? The yoy and qoq growth is still there BUT according to the folks at CIMB, the recent earnings simply isn't impressive!

As it is, for me, from a business perspective, the main question I will ask is, "Does it pass or fail to meet your assessment that Uchi remains a good business investment?". Yes, growth appears to be slowing down. And perhaps the issue is it going thru the consolidation cycle? Would this be a concern? For me, I would prefer to look at the bigger picture and my view would remain. Uchi earnings track record indicates that Uchi business does have a strong competitive advantage of others. What it has achieved over the years does indicate that it has a strong product and that the management has done extremely well to achieve these results.

Now if you look at the table again, currently Uchi number of shares in the market is some 375 million.

However, my main concern remains with its ESOS issue mentioned here: ROI on Uchi: Part III - the ESOS issue

As mentioned by the great, late Philip Fisher:

  • The management of a company is always for closer to its assets than its shareholders. And without even breaking any laws, there are number of ways that the management can benefit themselves and their families at the expense of the minority shareholders, for example employing their relatives, buy-and-selling of properties between relatives at above market rates or the issuing common stock options.

Make no mistake, I view this stock option as a massive issue. I simply do not like what I see!

This issue can be seen here: ESOS

The Enlarged issued and paid-up share capital after the Proposed New ESOS would ultimately see Uchi's share base enlarge to 455.213 million shares.

Look at the above table in this posting. TTM earnings shows a share base of 375 million shares. Uchi's current earnings is some 86 million or an EPS of 23 sen. Uchi last traded at 3.02 or an PEx of 13x.

But when all these ESOS is granted listing, Uchi's share base will enlarge to 455 million. Which means an earnings of 86 million would only equate to an EPS of just 19 sen. And using a same PE multiple of 13x, then Uchi could be trading as low as 2.47!!

See the extreme dilutive effect caused by Uchi's massive ESOS?

If I own this stock, I would be deeply concerned.

And what about perspective investors? Surely they would be worried too. No?

Why would they want to invest in a business knowing very well that the future earnings will be diluted by so much?

Here is an interesting note. That ROI on Uchi: Part III - the ESOS issue was blogged on Feb 28th 2006. Look at the very last sentence.

  • just for the record... Uchi is now trading at 3.30.

Uchi today's trade at 3.02.

So despite Uchi's extremely impressive set of earnings, Uchi's stock price has under performed the market greatly.

Yes, recent quarterly earnings indicated that its earnings growth is no longer as impressive but I, for one, reckon that the share overhang caused by the potential ESOS listing as the main factor for the stock under performance.

How?

What say you?

Thursday, July 20, 2006

Key West's ESOS issue

Saw this article posted by the Edge Weekly on Key West Global. ( KEYWEST )

Corporate: Key West takes Esos hit
By Siow Chen Ming

Here are some points from the article..

  • Mesdaq-listed Key West Global Telecommunications Bhd (KWGT) is probably the first company on Bursa Malaysia to have reported a loss from expensing its employees' share options. The company said it had expensed a sum of RM396,000 on share options in the first financial quarter ended April 30, 2006, causing a pre-tax loss of RM516,000 during the period, on a turnover of RM45.32 million. During the previous corresponding quarter, pre-tax profit amounted to RM770,000 on a turnover of RM25.77 million.

And last but not least, the writer mentioned the following:
  • With share options becoming an "expense", this would be a reminder to companies to plan their Esos properly so that their future earnings performance are not affected. This is particularly so for companies that have high staff counts but with small profits or thin profit margins.

Here's the issue for me.

ESOS is to reward the employees.

I have no problem with it.

Expensing ESOS in the books? Yes, it is a must. Someone has got to pay for it and it is an EXPENSE for the company. The shareholders has the right to know how much is the total expenses. Right?

So what's my problem?

Aha... if the company does not MAKE so much money... why should the ESOS be more than what the company make?

Does these employees deserve their ESOS?

Think about it.

That I think should be the most important thing to address!


Tuesday, February 28, 2006

ROI on Uchi: Part III - the ESOS issue

It would appear that we have a very interesting situation in Uchi Tech.

We are looking at a stock...

  • With a CAGR of 25% over the last 6 years.
  • With a CAGR of 18.76% over the last 4 years.
  • Last year's net profits grew 17%
  • Net profit margins of 56%.
  • Nett cash. No debts

But it is considering a tacky 15% ESOS!!

As mentioned by the great, late Philip Fisher:

  • the management of a company is always for closer to its assets than its shareholders. And without even breaking any laws, there are number of ways that the management can benefit themselves and their families at the expense of the minority shareholders, for example employing their relatives, buy-and-selling of properties between relatives at above market rates or the issuing common stock options.


Yes, by issuing a 15% ESOS, the directors of the company are putting themselves in a position where they benefit themselves more than the minority shareholder.

Now here is some interesting issue worth considering. Here's what we need to do. Open the wordfile attached to that ESOS
announcement

1. See line 3. Maximum no. of Shares to be issued pursuant to the exercise of outstanding Existing ESOS options granted/ which may be granted. Total? 23,445,280 million shares.

Question that begs to be asked. Why is there so many outstanding existing ESOS?
Since there already exist so many outstanding ESOS, why the need for another 15%?

2. See line 5.
To be issued pursuant to the Proposed New ESOS (up to 15%)... 59,375,712.

Now if you add both figures up, you will get 82,820,992 new shares, assuming full exercise of ESOS.

Currently Uchi has 372,392,800 shares. Which means there is a possible dilution in earnings per share of 22% assuming full exercise of all these ESOS.

Now let's be realistic and ask ourselves this... is 22% dilution in earnings per share a lot or not?

Simple way to look at this dilution.

Say U** has a current eps of 100 sen.
Say U** has a possibility to trade at a price earnings multiple of 18x.

Which means U** could be worth some 18.00 in market price.

Now a 22% dilution means... the eps would be 78 sen.
And using the same pe multiple assumption of 18x, U** should be trading at a market price of 14.00.

See how disadvantage to the minority shareholder?

Oh yes, it is mentioned that ESOS is important for a company for it is a proven method to retain talent in a company. No doubt about it. But from a minority shareholder of the company oint of view, do you think it is fair that your earnings per share be diluted by so much?

Now comes the really subjective and tricky part of any review.

Say you really, really hate such a proposal but on the other hand you recognise that this is still a very solid company. How?

Would you forgive Uchi on this and consider this as just one red flag? Are you willing to forgive UCHi and consider this as only just one naughty thingy?

Or would you kick Uchi out of the door?

How?

Oh this issue of flags... LOL... sometimes... I wonder if investing is a game of collecting flags? Like in soccer, you get a yellow card and then a red card! Ahhh.. but do not get me wrong here.. me just ranting on it that's all... lol... just poking fun lah..... :p

Anyhow... at the end of the day... it matters not what I think about ESOS or what I think about UCHi... most important is us making the correct rational decision.

just for the record... Uchi is now trading at 3.30.