Showing posts with label Yung Kong Galvanised Steel. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Yung Kong Galvanised Steel. Show all posts

Saturday, May 15, 2010

Update On Yung Kong's Earnings

August 2008, I wrote the following Listed Companies Investments: Yung Kong Galvanised Steel.

I will reproduce the whole posting here....

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I have always felt uneasy seeing our local listed companies dabbling with their excess money. Sometimes they invest in the share market and sometimes they just invest! And one of the most disturbing issue is that there is ZERO transparency!

Most of the time, the companies do not let their shareholder knows the details of their so-called investment.

For example, we do NOT even know if it were investments in quoted shares and if it was, what shares did they buy, at what price was the investment made and most important, why!

Talk is cheap. Here's an example. Yung Kong Galvanised.

Let's go way back in time. 1999.

Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/9/1999

If you open up the Balance Sheet notes, you find the following:


As you can see the results is not very good at all. Total investments at cost is at 23.600 million and total market value back then in 1999 was 15.660 million. A 'paper' loss of 7.94 million.

Besides that, remember the transparency issue mentioned above? Does the investor or minority shareholder what are these 'investments'?

Giving a lump sump total and the market value as above is simply not cutting it in my opinion.

The investor does not even know what Yung Kong had invested in!

And the below snapshot was taken of its balance sheet then.


Compare its cash versus its short term borrowings of 2.925 million cash versus 29.928 million borrowings. Surely one would question why was Yung Kong making these investments?

If it has the extra cash, isn't it better to pay off its loans?

Don't tell me it's ok to borrow to 'invest'?

Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok that was back in 1999. Now it's 2008. Here is the link to Yung Kong's latest quarterly earning.

Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/6/2008

Now Yung Kong still dabbles in the market.

Considering the fact that our market HAD ENJOYED one incredible stock rally recently, surely one would have assumed that Yung Kong would have enjoyed a much better luck with their UNKNOWN investments.

However, it would appears that life is simply unkind to them!

And here comes an even more horror show from Yung Kong!!



Total investments at cost is now at 42.200 million!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like they dabbled MORE into more investments.

And look at the end result.

Market value at end of reporting period is only 19.410 million! Which means the company is now carrying a 'paper' loss of 22.79 million!!!!!!!!!!!

So from 1999 to 2008, despite witnessing one incredible bull run, Yung Kong's unknown investment paper loss has increased from 7.94 million to a whopping 22.79 million!

Holy cow!

How?

Firstly, don't you think that Yung Kong should give up its so-called unknown investments?

Secondly, don't you think there should be more transparency here and that it's only right that Yung Kong disclose exact information on their investments?

How now my dearest MooMooCow?

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May 2010..

Yung Kong announced its earnings yesterday. Here's the section I wanted to see.




Yung Kong doesn't even bother to write more on it. And if one did not stop and ponder for a moment, would they realise that this means that this investment, which started since 1998, is currently sitting on some 18.685 million worth of losses.


More than a decade.

More than 10 years.

And this investments justs sits there.

I know, Auntie Yee says that 'not sold, so it's only paper losses'.

But hey, Auntie Yee, we don't even know what these investments represents!

What if Yung Kong decides to recognise the losses one fine day? How then? Say if it was today, this would mean that Yung Kong have to take a whopping 18.685 million in losses!!!

But since it just sits there and no one else complain... why should Yung Kong even bother?

Yeah... good or what????

Sunday, March 21, 2010

Comments On Mega First Insane Trading

Comments from the posting: What Do You Seriously Think Of Mega First's Insane Trading Of Quoted Securities?


  • solomon said...
    One would argue that what is the difference if I put the money for investment house to invest and now I invest myself(MFCB)? On the other hand, minorities might be shouting give us back the money ya.....

    This is a definite grey area where it needs immediate address by the Lawman. We need a good channel for the betterment of a world class trading platform, if not today when are we going to???

Yes exactly. However..

  1. MFCB is not an investmend house.
  2. What exactly is being bought and sold?
  3. Any conflict of interest issue?
  4. The size of the trading is insane. It's already more than 5% of its net assets.
  • This is a definite grey area where it needs immediate address by the Lawman. We need a good channel for the betterment of a world class trading platform, if not today when are we going to???

Sadly... MFCB is not the only company. And here lies the problem.

Are we going to wait till one company goes bust before we act?

Take Yung Kong: http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.com/2008/08/listed-companies-investments-yung-kong.html

  • So from 1999 to 2008, despite witnessing one incredible bull run, Yung Kong's unknown investment paper loss has increased from 7.94 million to a whopping 22.79 million!

Same thing. What investment is this? Why can't Yung Kong be more transparent?

Anyway, the posting made on Yung Kong was on Aug 2008. Here's the latest update.

  • Total investments at cost 42,200
    Total investments at carrying value/book value (after provision for diminution in value) 23,515
    Total investments at market value at end of reporting period 19,135. (source:
    here )

And as expected, it is still carrying HUGE paper losses!!!

How?

I could post more companies dabbling massive sums on investments that the investing public has no idea on what's happening.

Yeah... when will we see something done about this issue?

And if from a pure investing perspective, I would really, really hate to see the company I invest in taking part in such unhealthy activities and yes, I would vote with my feet immediately!

Friday, May 08, 2009

Again On Yung Kong Galvanised Steel's Quoted Investments.

Posted last Thursday, August 14, 2008, Listed Companies Investments: Yung Kong Galvanised Steel

Yung Kong announced its earnings just now. It lost some 6.2 million. However, I was more interested to see their quoted investments again.



Well total investments at cost was 42.2 million.

Total investments based at market value was 16.185 million.

Ahem.. paper loss of 26.015 million.

And again I repeat my issue as posted in Listed Companies Investments: Yung Kong Galvanised Steel

Firstly, don't you think that Yung Kong should give up its so-called unknown investments?

Secondly, don't you think there should be more transparency here and that it's only right that Yung Kong disclose exact information on their investments?

How?

Thursday, August 14, 2008

Listed Companies Investments: Yung Kong Galvanised Steel

I have always felt uneasy seeing our local listed companies dabbling with their excess money. Sometimes they invest in the share market and sometimes they just invest! And one of the most disturbing issue is that there is ZERO transparency!

Most of the time, the companies do not let their shareholder knows the details of their so-called investment.

For example, we do NOT even know if it were investments in quoted shares and if it was, what shares did they buy, at what price was the investment made and most important, why!

Talk is cheap. Here's an example. Yung Kong Galvanised.

Let's go way back in time. 1999.

Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/9/1999

If you open up the Balance Sheet notes, you find the following:


As you can see the results is not very good at all. Total investments at cost is at 23.600 million and total market value back then in 1999 was 15.660 million. A 'paper' loss of 7.94 million.

Besides that, remember the transparency issue mentioned above? Does the investor or minority shareholder what are these 'investments'?

Giving a lump sump total and the market value as above is simply not cutting it in my opinion.

The investor does not even know what Yung Kong had invested in!

And the below snapshot was taken of its balance sheet then.


Compare its cash versus its short term borrowings of 2.925 million cash versus 29.928 million borrowings. Surely one would question why was Yung Kong making these investments?

If it has the extra cash, isn't it better to pay off its loans?

Don't tell me it's ok to borrow to 'invest'?

Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok that was back in 1999. Now it's 2008. Here is the link to Yung Kong's latest quarterly earning.

Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/6/2008

Now Yung Kong still dabbles in the market.

Considering the fact that our market HAD ENJOYED one incredible stock rally recently, surely one would have assumed that Yung Kong would have enjoyed a much better luck with their UNKNOWN investments.

However, it would appears that life is simply unkind to them!

And here comes an even more horror show from Yung Kong!!



Total investments at cost is now at 42.200 million!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like they dabbled MORE into more investments.

And look at the end result.

Market value at end of reporting period is only 19.410 million! Which means the company is now carrying a 'paper' loss of 22.79 million!!!!!!!!!!!

So from 1999 to 2008, despite witnessing one incredible bull run, Yung Kong's unknown investment paper loss has increased from 7.94 million to a whopping 22.79 million!

Holy cow!

How?

Firstly, don't you think that Yung Kong should give up its so-called unknown investments?

Secondly, don't you think there should be more transparency here and that it's only right that Yung Kong disclose exact information on their investments?

How now my dearest MooMooCow?

Friday, October 27, 2006

Yung Kong

Blogged on this before ( here )

Recently I made some notes on this stock (on July 26th) and the coloured commentaries were inserted as my notes on what's happening.

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Look at some of the reasonings made by Dynaquest to justify their buy recommendation...


  1. Low PE multiple 8.1x.
  2. DIY of 2.33% nett
  3. Current price of 1.29 at 3-year low
  4. Growth stock: (5-Yr: 5.31% & 10-Yr: 11.25%).

* Some reasons not to buy? => look at the above. What the writer from Dynaquest did was he based the buy reasoning on yardsticks. And the reasonings were simply flimsy.

1. Ze debt issue. See how Dynaquest analyst IGNORED the issue about the massive build-up in debts... debts went from 44.89million to rm194 million? Ah.. remember how some argued that borrowings is needed to finance growth? And that in order to stay on top of the game, further capital expansion and continued spending on research is needed. => some have argued that debt is needed for capex. True. But at end results, like Yung Kong and also my favourite, Mieco, has simply proved that to ass-u-me that such a capex is good is simply hazardous to the investor. Remember what might be good for the company might not be good for the investor!

On the other hand, the argument is simply on how prudent the management is. No one has said that capital expansion is bad or said that borrowing is bad... but... there should a limit on how much a company should spend. By being too aggressive capital expansion could be deemed reckless. One cannot use capital expansion as an excuse. There is a saying that one should only buy a hat that fits their head.
=> how true is the statement in red!

Ahh... such classical arguments... anyway... Dynaquest argued that the proposed rights issue by Yung Kong would help lessen this debt issue in the near future.

2. Low PE. I have always argued that the PE only reflects how the stock is trading in the market when gauged against its earnings. It states NOT about the quality of the stock. Simply put.. not all low PE stocks would equate to a great investment.
=> Remember a low PE stock does NOT make the stock good.

3. DIY of 2.33%
... err.... not terribly exciting isn't it? =>True? Look at the price of Yung Kong versus its DIY. Remember when Dynaquest wrote that article, Yung Kong was trading around 1.29.

4. Trading at a 3 year low? Waahh... does that justifies an investment?
=> Same issue with low PE right? And to use 'trading at a 3 year low' as an excuse to buy the stock for investment is never a sure win thingy!!!

5. Growth stock? The following table highlights Yung Kong track record. Where is the growth? All I see is a very inconsistent company. => This one.. Dynaquest writer should simply be shot!!!! Where was the growth?

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Yung Kong announced its earnings today.


It's not too bad, although it's margins are rather so razor thin..

but..

is this the turnaround the investor is waiting for? Now if one was still optimistic of this company's future, wouldn't this have been a better time to consider the stock compared to what Dynaquest had written from day one? (remember Dynaquest started their buy recommendation on this fella since April 2005. Price then was 1.27! Price of YungKong now? 0.805!!!)

Wednesday, July 26, 2006

Yung Kong: Part II

Wrote on this stock before: here

Yung Kong just announced it's earnings and it did not lose money.

YUNG KONG GALVANISING INDUSTRIES BHD
Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 30/6/2006

Well, it's only right that I made this short note.

And just for the record, here is how the stock is performing.


Monday, April 17, 2006

Reminiscences of a Stock Mumbler: II

Flashback. April 20th 2005.

Dynaquest iniated research coverage on steel-based products maker, Yung Kong Galavnising Industries Bhd on the Bursa eresearch website (click here for the article). (ps. Dynaquest has been a staunch supporter of Yung Kong since 2003, featuring it on its Sunday Mail write-ups)

Here is a snippet from the report.

  • 3. Valuation:

    Attractive valuation & well-managed company. There are no local listed comparables for YUNKONG, as the other four major players in the galvanising sector are not listed. However, at the current (as at 15.04.05) price of RM1.29, YUNKONG is trading at a prospective P/E multiple of only 8.1 times and a DY of 2.33% nett. Its current price is also near its 3-year low of RM1.25. Based on both fundamental yardsticks, the current valuation of YUNKONG is considered cheap in view of its relative high EPS growth rate over the long-term (5-Yr: 5.31% & 10-Yr: 11.25%). In addition, YUNKONG is a relatively well-managed company and its long-term prospects remain favourable.

    FY2004 in Review

    Unable to fully passed on the higher costs to its customers. For FY04, YUNKONG recorded a 9.5% increase in earnings to RM10.11m on the back of almost 23% rise in sales to RM269.19m. The improved sales and earnings performance for FY04 was due to higher selling price of its steel products. However, due to higher cost of raw materials and other inputs which could not be fully passed on to its customers as well as an increase in administrative expenses (+28.4%), the EBITDA margin for FY04 fell to 11.04% from 12.52% in FY03. The FY04 EPS rose to 15.65 sen (1Q: 5.84 sen, 2Q: 4.28 sen, & 3Q: 3.30 sen & 4Q: 2.23 sen) from 14.55 sen (1Q: 5.22 sen, 2Q: 4.51 sen & 3Q: 3.22 sen & 4Q: 1.60 sen) in FY03.

    FY2005 Prospects

    Double-digit sales growth anticipated. YUNKONG is expected to record double-digit sales growth in the current FY (FY05) as a result of increased selling price of its products as well as increased production following the recent commissioning of its NOF-CGL at its Klang factory.

    However, with higher depreciation and continuous pressure on profit margin from the high CRC prices, the bottomline profit of YUNKONG is likely to show only a small improvement. In addition, start-up losses from the new galvanising line are also expected to affect its bottomline profit for the current FY.
    Hence, we are forecasting only a slightly higher EPS of 16.0 sen for FY05.

    Longer-term Prospects

    Growth will come from capacity expansion. In spite of the short-term pain, the longer-term outlook of YUNKONG remains bright as its expanded to become an integrated manufacturer of galvanising products. The profit margin of YUNKONG is expected to improve once the prices of its raw materials, particularly CRC, stabilise. It’s the volatile movement of the raw material prices and NOT the high prices that put the pressure on YUNKONG’s profit margin.

    During an upswing, there will always be a time lag before YUNKONG can fully passes on the higher cost. On the other hand, during a downswing, the selling price of YUNKONG’s products will be immediately adjusted downward due to competition but it will be a while before its stock of raw materials at relatively higher prices is cleared.

    7. Balance Sheet:

    Rising net gearing. The aggressive capacity expansion by YUNKONG over the last few years had weakened its balance sheet. The net borrowings of YUNKONG have risen from RM44.89m at the end of FY01 to RM194.08m at the end of FY04. As a result, its net gearing soared from 0.6x at the end of FY01 to 1.9x at the end of FY04. Net gearing will be reduced after proposed Rights & Special Issues. YUNKONG’s current net gearing of 1.91x at the end of FY04 will be reduced to about 1.77x after the proposed Rights and Restricted Issues.

    8. Recommendation:

    We are initiating our coverage of the Company with a "LONG-TERM BUY" recommendation at the current market price of RM1.29.

Look at some of the reasonings made by Dynaquest to justify their buy recommendation...

  1. Low PE multiple 8.1x.
  2. DIY of 2.33% nett
  3. Current price of 1.29 at 3-year low
  4. Growth stock: (5-Yr: 5.31% & 10-Yr: 11.25%).

* Some reasons not to buy?

1. Ze debt issue. See how Dynaquest analyst IGNORED the issue about the massive build-up in debts... debts went from 44.89million to rm194 million? Ah.. remember how some argued that borrowings is needed to finance growth? And that in order to stay on top of the game, further capital expansion and continued spending on research is needed.

On the other hand, the arguement is simply on how prudent the management is. No one has said that capital expansion is bad or said that borrowing is bad... but... there should a limit on how much a company should spend. By being too aggressive capital expansion could be deemed reckless. One cannot use capital expansion as an excuse. There is a saying that one should only buy a hat that fits their head.

Ahh... such classical arguements... anyway... Dynaquest argued that the proposed rights issue by Yung Kong would help lessen this debt issue in the near future.

2. Low PE. I have always argued that the PE only reflects how the stock is trading in the market when gauged against its earnings. It states NOT about the quality of the stock. Simply put.. not all low PE stocks would equate to a great investment.

3. DIY of 2.33%... err.... not terribly exciting isn't it?

4. Trading at a 3 year low? Waahh... does that justifies an investment?

5. Growth stock? The following table highlights Yung Kong track record. Where is the growth? All I see is a very inconsistent company.

6. The inability to pass the cost down to its customers as mentioned by Dynaquest is a worry!

Article was written on April 15th. Few days later Yung Kong announced its quarterly earnings. Yung Kong a net earnings of 1.683 million or an eps of 2.6 sen. It's quarterly earnings improved by some 17% but its year-to-year net earnings dropped an alarming 55%. (see snapshot of Dynaquest's write-up on Yung Kong's earnings )

And the debt issue? Did it improve? Ahem... net borrowings has risen further to rm230.46 million!

And what did Dynaquest conclude in their write-up?

  • We are maintaining our "LONG-TERM BUY" recommendation for YUNKONG at the current market price of RM1.27.
Still a buy wor... Incredible!

Never mind, let's give it a benefit of a doubt for this quarter. Anyway, 3 months later, Yung Kong announced its next
quarterly earnings.

Yung Kong announced it made 1.665 million for the quarter or 3.348 million for its first 2 quarters of the year or an eps of 5.15 sen. (ahem.. dynaquest's projected eps was some 16 sen for this fiscal year!)

And here is Dynaquest write-up:

Ahh... Dynaquest is forced to lower the EPS forecast from 16 sen to only 12 sen.
  • In view of the weaker-than-expected 1H, we are revising downward our full-year EPS forecast to 12.0 sen from 16.0 sen previously. However, DPS for CY05 is projected to be maintained at 3.00 sen nett.
Discounting the debt issue... which now has grown to RM258.52m!... and the fact that Yung Kong's first half earnings has now plunged 49% compared to a year ago.. Dynaquest gave the following recommendation:

  • We are maintaining our "LONG-TERM BUY" recommendation for YUNKONG at the current market price of RM1.06.
Ahem.. previously... 1.29 buy, 1.27 buy and now 1.06.. it's still a buy for the long-term!

Shocking? When Dynaquest lowered their earnings forecast for Yung Kong from an eps of 16 sen to 12 sen, Dynaquest is effectively downgrading Yung Kong's earnings by some 25%. Now after such a hefty downgrade in earnings, how could Yung Kong still be worth a buy?

3 months later in Nov 2005, Yung Kong announced its 2005 q3 quarterly earnings.

How did Yung Kong do? Well it reported a loss of 1.214 million!

And here is Dynaquest following
write-up.

And again, Dynaquest defended the poor result and again it ignored the debt issue.


And what was Dynaquest recommendation?
  • The current price of YUNKONG had factored in the bearish outlook for the short term. Hence, we are maintaining our "LONG-TERM BUY" recommendation for YUNKONG at the current market price of 86 sen.

My oh my, still a long term buy at 86 sen? 86 sen??? WOW!!... and Yung Kong was just trading at some 1.29 some 9 months ago!

How?

Current poor price of 86 sen had been factored in the bearish outlook?

Huh?

And the following picture says it all...



Oh.. and a couple of days later... Yung Kong announced the following announcement.

That rights issue thingy that Dynaquest had mentioned so many times b4..

  • On behalf of the Board of YKGI, Malaysian International Merchant Bankers Berhad ("MIMB") is pleased to announce that the Securities Commission ("SC") had, via its letter dated 24 November 2005, approved an extension of time of six (6) months from 29 November 2005 up to 29 May 2006 for the implementation of the abovementioned Proposals, subject to the terms and conditions as earlier stipulated in SC's approval letter, dated 30 May 2005.

Hmmm.... seeking extension? Why? Would it be wrong for one to speculate that perhaps Yung Kong is seeking an extension because they could not find a buyer and that perhaps their shares is NOT LAKU?

And the latest development? Yung Kong announced their 2005 Q4 quarterly earnings on Feb 2006.

Yung Kong posted a loss of 1.513 million for the quarter and ended their 2005 fiscal year with a mere profit of 620k.

And this is what Dynaquest had to say in their research write-up and the following is their recommendation:

  • The current share price of YUNKONG had factored in the bearish outlook for the short to medium term. While the worse for YUNKONG may be over, earnings recovery to the pre-FY05 level may still be several quarters away. Hence, we are downgrading YUNKONG to a "HOLD" from a "LONGTERM BUY" at the current market price of 83.5 sen.

ahem!