I have gotten an interesting comment on my posting, NasionCom Founder Charged With Bribery!
- From The Wanderer
Dear Moola, (the financial watch cow)
I don't want I Cap to conveniently forget about their buy call on 18/08/2006
The buy below 0.15 is......?????
In the last paragraph, iCapital wrote the following:
- iCapital finds NasionCom to be an interesting company, with one of the factors being the direction and strategy that the new managing director has planned for the group. However, what worries us is the level of borrowings currently carried by the group. As at 1Q06, the group has rm64 million worth of borrowings, rm3.6 million of cash, and incurred interest expenses of rm1.3 million (35% of operating profit). On balance, iCapital rates NasionCom as a Buy below rm0.15 for the medium-term.
Ok, iCapital was looking at 06 Q1 earnings of Nasioncom, Quarterly rpt on consolidated results for the financial period ended 31/3/2006
It was nice to see that iCapital recognise that NasionCom had a terrible balance sheet but then on the other hand, why then does it want to rate NasionCom as a BUY below rm0.15 for the medium-term???Sounds not so correct, yes?
So I decided to compile a table on NasionCom.
Let's look at the numbers based on simple logic reasonings.
1. Net profit - Ok, for 06 Q1 did ok but the previous 2 quarters 05 Q3 and 05 Q4, the earnings has been terrible.
2. The net profit margins is terrible eh?
3. Cash balances. Cash balances have depleted, yes? Exactly a year ago, Nasioncom reported it had cash of 10.285 million in its 05 Q1 earnings. Now it only has 3.636 million.
4. Loan balances. Total loans is at 64 million. A year ago for the same period, Nasioncom had loans of only 28.138 million!
5. Receivables. Holy moly. Incredible. A year ago, Nasioncom Receivables was at 48.445 million. A year later, the receivables have balloned to 71.115 million. Which didn't make sense because during this period, from 05 Q2 to 06 Q1, NasionCom only had net earnings of 4.352 million! Earn so little, how could the receivables balloon so much? Not fishy, meh?
How?
Seriously, NasionCom looks like a damn lousy company yes?
Poor earnings, terrible margins, depleting cash, ballooning debts and receivables.
So many issues yes?
Would you want to invest in this company based on these information?
And yet, iCapital had a MEDIUM-TERM buy on this stock at 0.15 sen!
Do you understand their MEDIUM-TERM buy recommendation at all? I, for one, do not.
So why did iCapital make such a call?
And the only announcement of significant that NasionCom had was on the very same day, Nasioncom announced that it had a huge private placement of up to 80,000,000 new ordinary shares of RM0.10 each (Shares) in NHB, representing up to 10% of the existing issued and paid-up share capital of NHB (Proposed Private Placement)
And this is how NasionCom has done since 18th Aug 2006.
ps: The Wanderer, I wonder if iCap changed their recommendation on NasionCom since Aug 2006?
10 comments:
This posting is not beneficial to me since I have vested interest
I pretend I cannot see this post :noisee:
Dear Moola,
Very sad to say, no revisit of this company after recommendation.
Check to thier ratings on company that they recommended:
15/01/2007 buy below 0.15/HOLD
02/03/2007 same rating
29/06/2007 buy below 0.15
06/07/2007 buy below 0.15 (what the @#@$#!@$@$, my comment LOL)
11/07/2007 I cap revised NSCOM rating to hold, OMG!
20/07/2007 revised to HOLD only!
until now it is still holding there.
http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nscom1cb2.jpg
Above screen shot is the latest rating on 16/05/2008.
rgds,
the three eyes (i) in icap.
Intelligence - very indeed... :)
the other two, rate them.... :)
Don't be so naive to think that Icap will have 100% accurate in their analysis.
Read it, do your analysis, form your own judgement.
Act on your own risk!
Who is so naive to talk about 100% accuracy?
Is the issue "100% accuracy"?
hmmmm....??????
How now?
What say you?
The issue is not whether investment advisors can get it 100% accurate..
If you can get 6 out of 10 correct, you're already very very good
The issue is whether or not they own up to it when they've made a mistake..
Last I heard, there is such a thing as a SELL call..
The issue is whether it can owns up to its claim of 3 "i"s.
Talking down to WB???
But i can tell you WB is a fucking better economist and investor.
Conflict of interest?
Due to the nature of investment adviser it has to recommend stocks after stocks.
Just look at their ratings section.
On the other hand, they have huge amount of $$$$$ from their funds to invest.
advise you first then invest or invest first then advise you????
My Dearest Wanderer,
Yes, I totally agree with the conflict of interest issue here.
As you have nicely put, advise you first then invest or invest first then advise you????
This simply isn't correct.
And if you ask me, I am appalled that the SC has not done anything about this conflict of interest in iCapital's case.
How on earth can they be an independent investment advisor when they are also managing a closed-end fund????
Surely their performance is handicapped to PERFORM superbly when they recommend to their subscribers to buy the stocks they invest in!
Yeah... advise you first then invest or invest first then advise you????
I feel sad for TTB because some people here just like to bash people on some small mistakes. TTB has been in the market for a long long time and I don't think his record is anything is be ashamed of. Depending on how you look at your portfolio, I believe you can allow for some 100% writeoffs in your stocks (just like structured warrants expiring worthless). For every Nasioncom, our friend has a few LionDIV. If you strcutured your investment to allow for such eventuality, no need to say sorry!
When u carry Rm 500 million cash for investment & concentrate on handful of stocks & determine when to buy or sell, it is very easy to show very good performance in short run !
However long run say 5 years onwards the actual performance will be revealed.
To maintain this good performance TTB can be either
1)A good investor
2) Have very wide followers
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