On money.cnn:
- The young and the riskless
In the wake of the market meltdown of 2008, investors under age 35 are shunning stocks in stunning numbers.
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Saw the following posting at ZH:
Source: David Tepper Dumps 20% Of Financial Holdings During Quarter Of Infamous CNBC Speech
Now who and what does this reminds me of?
Hmmmmmm.......
:P
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Mentioned on cnn.money.
David Joy, chief market strategist with Columbia Management in Boston, agreed. He said it's hard to bet against stocks right now but conceded that the market's recent move is more about waiting for the Fed than any real optimism about the economy
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Yes it's 21 Weeks And 73 Billion Redeemed From Equity Funds and even IBD has started featuring the issue (although on a much watered down version) Stock Fund Outflow Hits $16.53 Billion
September was a good month, no? Look at CNBC article header: Can Rally Continue After Best September Since 1939?
Best September since 1993 and the stock fund outflow continued!
Yeah.. the inquiry mind wants to know what would be of 'stock funds with much less funds'? And more so, a market with stock funds that has less funds?
How about this from Meredith Whitney who is making a massive prediction that 80,000 layoffs could be seen in Wall Street! ( do play the video)
On the Atlantic.com: Hiring Freezes and Layoffs Begin on Wall Street
The money wasn't flowing as abundantly through Wall Street this summer. Big banks are beginning to slow their hiring and reduce their workforces. And these aren't entirely back- or mid-office jobs, as front-office employees will also be affected. This indicates pessimism on the part of the financial industry, which is likely bad news for the broader economy as well.
Earlier this week, we learned that Morgan Stanley has implemented a hiring freeze on investment banking jobs through the end of 2010. Trading and underwriting have been slow and aren't expected to pick up much in the near-term. Usually, that means layoffs aren't far off.
Indeed, reports also indicate that Bank of America has begun to shed jobs from its capital markets group for the same reason.
A Bloomberg article by Michael J. Moore on the Morgan Stanley freeze says:
According to a source who spoke with John Carney of CNBC, U.S. fixed income groups will be severely affected. The source describes volume down across the board, predicting a "bloodbath." Part of the problem is new financial regulation, says the source:
Usually when Wall Street firms begin laying off workers, a full-fledged firing wave begins. If volume is down for a few, then it's down for everyone. And for layoffs to ensue, they either overestimated the speed of the recovery or see a double dip. Either way, this is probably bad news for Main Street, since Wall Street firing tends to be a leading indicator for the rest of the labor market.
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And then we have DB Shaw and BoA: DE Shaw, Bank of America (BAC) Layoffs Foreshadow Harsh New Reality for Wall Street
The DE Shaw is the most interesting.
7 Billion Redeemptions and 10 percent layoffs ( they laid off their math geniuses!)!!!
Ah.. perhaps they (DE Shaw) deserved it for doing what they did - do see this article A poster child for treating investors poorly?
On NY Times Blog: Wall Street's Layoff Problem Is Spreading
Ahem!
Note the very last sentence: trading in shares listed on the New York Stock Exchange was down by 11 percent in July from 2009 levels, and August volume was off nearly 30 percent.
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The following was posted on ZH: ( I love the trading volume chart highlighted in the posting from FT.com)
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Further Confirmation On The Irrelevance Of Stock Markets
Last week we pointed out that Jefferies group, one of the last few remaining non-BHC broker-dealers, has just experienced its single most disastrous drop in trading volumes, as its principal trading revenues plunged by 80% QoQ. This is merely confirmation of what we have been warning ever since we started highlighting the series of 20 consecutive outflows from domestic equity funds: banks will soon be forced to lay off thousands of people as the primary revenue driver for the bulk of Wall Street firms - stock volumes - is now gone. BofA and RBS have already confirmed they are letting people go. Next up: the electronic trading giants such as ITG, Knight and Schwab. And it will only get worse. As the FT reports, September trading volumes are already 8% below August's, which in turn was the lowest in 3 years! Of course, the Fed is fully confident that if the DJIA ends September at 11,000, investor confidence in stocks will return. We have one word for that - LOL.
From FT:
And what is funniest is that the decline in volume is blamed on the (lack of) intervention in the HFT's daily attempts to pickpocket slow money institutions
Oh really? Has anybody been affected by the "decline" in liquidity in SPY, Amazon or Apple? Last time we checked the only three products that trade had no problem with hitting bids (of course, front run several trillion times by $0.0001 bids just ahead of the submitted one to get the price high enough so that the last HFT bagholder can offload to you). Instead of lying, perhaps Diego and his firm, which incidentally makes money from the status quo and sees to lose millions should HFT scalping be impaired, as it seems the firm provides "Execution services from ITG, Credit Suisse, BNY and Instinet", but oddly enough the FT did not feel relevant to disclose this blatant conflict of interest, should look at the primary cause for volume collapse: that confidence in stock markets is gone, period. Nobody dares to hold stocks overnight, as nobody still has any clue why the market crashes 1,000 point in the span of a few seconds. If anyone hopes to revive faith in the stock market without someone getting punishment for the most ridiculous market crash since October 1987, they have another thing coming.
Wall Street may have gotten off scott free from the greatest absolute household wealth destruction episode in history, but when it comes to capital formation, pretty much everyone save for a few vacuum tubes, have had enough. And luckily, that means that worthless HFT, and other high volume parasite traders, will soon be out of a job. No tears will be shed as equilibrium reestablishes itself, and those providing absolutely no value to the stock market will become extinct. If the market will not self-correct, the market will be forced to self-correct.
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ahem...
Even FT.com highlights this issue.
LOL!
Reply From Kokanart: Time To Highlight The Other Side Of Your Obsessive Focus
:-)
yeah: 20 Consecutive Weeks Of Fund Outflows And 71 Billion Withdrawn From Equity Funds
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On CNBC 'Flash Crash' Effect: Investors Don't Trust Wall Street
Does it show?
Could this be the very reason that 65 Billion Outflow From Long Term Equity Funds?
Then I saw the following article on ZH: Another Day, Another Flash Crash


A stock that was trading at $39.58 hit $0.01 milliseconds later?
LOL!
The machines... the machines... the machines... the machines did it!
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And the markets they rallied again and the best one line from CNN Market Wrap article, Dow back in the black for 2010
That just says it all.
The excuse that the trading volume was light or non-existent or DEAD was many market participants are on vacation.
Glee!
Still on vacation?
Doesn't that line wears awfully thin?
Just how long have they been on vacation? Since 28th April 2010? ( *winks* )
How about they tell the fact that too little money had been withdrawn from the equity mutual funds? When these fund have no money, how does one expect to see volume in the markets? ( See 58 Billion Reason Why Americans Thinks Their Stock Market Sucks! )
On vacation? LOL!
ps: Houston, We Have No Problem... Or Volume and Can You Hear Me Now? 17th Weekly Fund Outflow As Equity Fund Redemptions Accelerate
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Nah.. it's not breaking news no more. Some aren't even interested in this anymore.
But.... for those who are still interested... here's the weekly update!
Americans have taken out some 4.313 Billion from the equity markets!
Here's my table keeping track of what's happening...
And yes... some 58 (57.7) Billion USD have caught the last train for the coast... the day the music ....
And if you have been counting, that's seventeen consecutive weeks that Americans have pulled out money from long term equity funds.
Seventeen yo!
And 57.7 BILLION bucks!
Yessirme!
Them Americans simply don't care! Their equity market could be flying or it could be plunging. All they want to do is they just want out!
Yeah.. value is not required! Neither is stock charts.
But for the fun of it....
DJIA
Nasdaq
S&P
The 'GREEN ZONE' shown in the charts above, indicates this seventeen weeks when Americans have pulled some 58 Billion out of their equity markets!
Yeah.. in regardless if their markets is UP or DOWN... they just WANT OUT!
ps: how ironic... some markets rally because of the US markets. :P
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Posted recently:
This issue was actually highlighted on the NY Times on 21st Aug 2010. ( :P )
In Striking Shift, Small Investors Flee Stock MarketLOL! The economic recovery does not feel real. What an under statement. :P
ps: saw this on MSNBC: Regardless of numbers, it feels like a recession
Anyway here's the weekly update and as expected, more money is taken out of the equity markets!
And the money taken out since 28th April 2010 is really, really staggering!
Yes, some USD53.279 BILLION has been taken out from long term equity mutual funds!
USD 53.279 Billion yo!
That's 16th consecutive weeks of outflows!
Heck, the Americans do not care if their equity market is raising or sinking, they just want out! (Yeah.. stock chart not required! :P )
Yes, Main Street is telling Wall Street that their equity markets sucks!
They want out!
And Wall Street better start worrying. As stated before investment bankers are seeing layoffs! ( see Barclays Layoffs: The First of Many Axes to Fall?, then Credit Suisse Follows Barclays in Layoffs. )
This is not a shocker. If their customers continues to withdraw at this place, for whom does the investment banker work for?
And here's one interesting posting: If Wall Street Starts Layoffs, Everyone Should Worry
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As expected, more money is pulled out from the equity markets.
There you go! The only conclusion I can get from these actions is that Main Street USA is telling that the equity markets stinks!!!
And I have the USD 49.126 Billion proof to back the above statement!!!
From 28th April 2010 to 4th August 2010, Main Street USA had pulled out 'a mere' USD 49.126 Billion out from the equities market!!!
And if you are counting, that's ONLY 14 weeks in a row that Main Street USA is taking money from their equity markets!
Tell me if USD 49.126 is some small change!!!
So pardon my flawed interpretation but this suggests to me strongly that Main Street USA is telling Wall Street that their equity markets stinks!!!!
Yes, in fact, stinks to hell hell!
They just don't trust the equity markets anymore!
Remember the AIG bailout fiasco? The laughing stock of the entire century?
Here's an excellent posting from Jesse: Why The Bankers, The Fed, and Their Allies In Washington Are Afraid of Elizabeth Warren . It highlights the The AIG Bailout Scandal: Bailing out AIG effectively meant rescuing Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America and Merrill Lynch (as well as a dozens of European banks) from huge losses. Those financial institutions played the derivatives game with AIG, the esoteric practice of placing financial bets on future events. AIG lost its bets, which led to its collapse. But other gamblers—the counterparties in AIG’s derivative deals—were made whole on their bets, paid off 100 cents on the dollar. Taxpayers got stuck with the bill!
Last night the US markets fell and surprise, surprise the volume increases!
LOL! Up on wafer thin volumes and down on increased volumes. I wonder what does this suggest?
Now with so all these money pulling out from the equity markets, who do you think is hurting?
The following article is from WSJ: Barclays Layoffs: The First of Many Axes to Fall?
Yeah.. a dismal second quarter for trading! How can they make money when there is no customers to trade/invest for?
Would you expect many axes to fall?
Well at the rate of how much money is pulled OUT from the equity markets, I won't be surprised at all!
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The markets keep telling you that the stocks are going higher and higher.
Stocks are simpling flying into the orbit...
The technicians are going berserk!
S&P is trading above the 200 MA, the lows are highers, the highs are highers.... all system go, right Houston?
And despite all the constant bad news, the market still continues to trend higher.
This is great or what!
But................................................
here's an update to the posting Since 28th April 2010, Americans Pulled USD 42.116 Billion Out From Equities!
In today's ici filings:
Domestic equity funds had estimated outflows of $4.10 billion???
huhu!
Now if I update my compiled table, this is what I am starring at.
So from 28th April 2010 to 28th July 2010, domestic (Americans) have pulled out a mere US 47.025 Billion out from the equities market!
47.025 Billion out in exactly 3 months!
That's ONLY 15.675 Billion taken out from the US equity markets!
How?
How do you really want to interpret this?
Americans simply don't like their stock markets no more?
Or do Americans know something we don't know?
How?
Do you like how the US stock market is melting upwards?
Or as long as the market is UP or Green, everything else matters not?
Yeah.. the market is on a BULL RUN! I simply need to STFU!
:D
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So how has the S&P performed for the current month of July?
Now that's rather impressive right? (except for the lack of volume :P )
Now I have been posting recently on Fund Flows out from US Equities. :P
July 9th: And The Stock Markets Rallied... Because Of....
July 16th: The Markets And Fund Flows
July 22nd: And The Money Keeps Flowing Out From US Equities
Now surely... the Amercians can see that the S&P is going up higher and higher yes?
And despite the markets going up higher, they continued to take out money from the US equities!
Wassap?
Is there a plague with the US equities?
And here's the latest update, for the period ending 21 July 2010:
Now if I compile the recent data...
Now don't let me scare you but let's have a rational look at the data itself. (data source: here )
Well the week prior to 5th May was 28th April and since 28th April 2010, Americans took out a whopping 42.116 Billion out from the US Equities!
Why?
No more love for the US Equities markets?
I dunno....
ps... at this rate... it's no wonder... in regards the lack of volume in the market. LOL!
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As expected the markets rallied.
A rise in new home sales?
Wiki Wiki!
The US Census report: http://www.census.gov/const/newressales.pdf
So it's a 23.6% improvement...and here is CNBC market wrap notes: Stock Gains Top 1%; FedEx, Builders Lead (ps: 'revised' )
LOL! Anemic volume :P Glee! Well if Americans are taking money out of equities, surely we won't see any improvement on the non-existing volume in the equity markets.
:D
Ahem... see how nicely they have forgotten to stress on the word 'revised'?
Now if we click on CNBC link: new housing sales rise 23.6 percent
Rebounded strongly????? LOL!
May home sales were revised DOWN just to 267,000. LOL! No wonder this 330,000 looks so impressive. (ps: The sales pace last month was still the second lowest since records started in 1963. )
And of course folks like TD easily spotted it and had no kind words for the headline spinning!
LOL! Yessir me and the cow did jumped over the moon. :P
On Calculated Risk: New Home Sales: Worst June on Record
Here's the chart of the New Home Sales (source: New Home Sales Bounce Off Their Revised May Low )
And so the US markets is rallying because of the new home sales???
LOL! LOL! LOL!
:D
Yup... it all doesn't matter... doesn't it.
Like the old man told Paul ..
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The S&P lost some 31 pts or 2.88% yesterday.
The volume issue again stood out.
I would like to update the figures posted in the posting: Market Goes Up Again Despite The Lack Of Interest
1. The Flash Crash happened on 6 May 2010. Volume on that day is 10,617,809,600.
2. Average traded volume for 2010 is 5,068,325,849. ( data source: here )
3. The recent closing and traded volume..
The bigger down days were marked with pink.
What do you see? What I do see? Well, my eyes might be flawed but I can see on these pink days, the volumes are much higher. And when the market goes up, it goes up on small volume and more interesting is the fact that the average traded volume this year is 5,068,325,849 and if you look at current July data, every time the SP goes up, the volume is significantly lower than the average traded volume. And when it goes down, the big volume appears again.
Push up on light volume so that can sell on heavier volume... and repeat... and repeat... and repeat?
ps: The Baltic did not fall yesterday! :D
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Let's see...
On the 2nd July SP500 was at 1022.58.
Last night, on the 15th July, SP500 closed at 1096.48.
Impressive?
The index went up, up and away. Soared like an eagle. :D
Yeah the low volume or the lack of interest is noted in the equities is noted.
Maybe them small investors know nuts. Maybe they are in a panic mode.
But panic mode when the market goes up?
Hmmm..... would this make sense?
Let's check out the fund flows, ie, are the Americans putting more money in this latest run?
Before I check, the 'older' recent postings on fund flows have been noted in the following postings..
From the data, Americans pulled out some 4.23 billion from equities for the period ending 7th July!
That was the week, the US markets flew up, up and away!
And as you can see from the table, this week was the highest outflow week, compared to the previous four weeks.
Hmmm.... pulling money out of the long term funds when the market is going up????
Maybe they are silly.... but .... what if they aren't?
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Recent postings;
On WSJ: Small Investors Flee Stocks, Changing Market Dynamics

ps: Yesterday volume for SP500 was 2,936,043,264. Let's see the action tonite. :D
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The US Markets went up again. :D
Look at the volume... 2,936,043,264!
Let's repeat what was highlighted as per weekend's posting Lack Of Interest In US Equities
1. The Flash Crash happened on 6 May 2010. Volume on that day is 10,617,809,600.
2. Average traded volume for 2010 is 5,090,658,997.
3. The recent traded volume..
9-Jul-10 ... 3,506,570,000
8-Jul-10 ... 4,548,460,000
7-Jul-10 ... 4,931,220,000
6-Jul-10 ... 4,691,240,000
2-Jul-10 ... 3,968,500,000
Yesterday or 12-Jul-10 traded volume 2,936,043,264!!!!
More lack of interest?
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Chart of SP500.
Sometimes numbers are more 'telling'.
1. The Flash Crash happened on 6 May 2010. Volume on that day is 10,617,809,600.
2. Average traded volume for 2010 is 5,090,658,997.
3. The recent traded volume..
9-Jul-10 ... 3,506,570,000
8-Jul-10 ... 4,548,460,000
7-Jul-10 ... 4,931,220,000
6-Jul-10 ... 4,691,240,000
2-Jul-10 ... 3,968,500,000
Again the volume shows utter lack of interest in the equities.
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Time to check out them news to see wassap! :D
Wall Street up for third day on data and retail sales
1. Encouraged to see jobless claims fall. (?? LOL! )
Now on the DOL (Department of Labour) website:
SA stands for Seasonally Adjusted data and the NSA stands for Not Seasonally Adjusted Data. So the adjusted data showed a drop of 21k claims but the unadjusted data showed an increase of 22.5k. ( What is the difference between seasonally adjusted and non-seasonally adjusted data? )
And here is the chart of the Seasonally Adjusted Jobless Claims.
Are those jobless claim numbers so hot that it created such optimism in the market? I wonder. (ps: I wonder if I should be even focused on jobless claims in the first place! )
Ok, assume I am wrong and that the market is correct. :D
I will then ask if the optimism is shared by actual market demand. Am I seeing more demand in stocks? Time to look at the charts and see what the volume is saying again.
Do I see increase in volume? Or did the volume actually shrank compared to to yesterday?
Going up on shrinking volume?
And what about the money outflows from long term mutual funds? (Yeah, see last month's posting: Of Low Volumes And Fund Outflows From Long Term Mutual Funds )
Well, that should about the nine straight weeks of money outflow from equities again. Pessimistic Americans? Or they really, really think extremely lowly of their stock market?
2. handful of large retailers report solid sales.
Mike "Mish" Shedlock wrote the following: Following Yesterday's Hype of Fastest Growth in 4 Years, June Retail Sales a "Mixed Bag" ( a recommended reading )
Yeah, these buggers were all talking about 'sales' numbers. And needless to say, lower profit margins and lower pricing would surely induce more sales!
And talking about Mish, he was featured on FinancialSense.com with a rather very significant editorial: Consumer Credit Drops Whopping $24 Billion in 2 Months. Do give it a read. ( Oh, ZH wrote on this also: Consumer Credit Plunges In May, April Revised Much Lower, As Government Only Marginal Lender For Two Months In A Row )
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