Posted back in April 2009: iCapial And Their Potential 12 Million Ringgit Paper Losss In Axiata
It's rather strange how that posting came about. Last April I wrote A Quick Look At iCapital's Quarterly Earnings. In it I stated rather 'strongly' against the earnings notes because I felt it was lacking.
- If I am an investor of this fund, surely the Fund Manager of this company should be more transparent in its earnings notes. To tell the reader that the company will continue to seek stocks that are attractively priced is not sufficient. It is so lacking. Surely, it owes to the shareholders of the fund, a much better market view and commentary. Just to say that the stock market is depressed is not up to standard. That's my blunt opinion.
Now that lead to iCapital.Biz Lack Of Disclosure In Their Quarterly Earnings
And then one thing lead to another and I end up with the following postings.
- A Quick Look At iCapital's Quarterly Earnings,
- iCapital.Biz Lack Of Disclosure In Their Quarterly Earnings,
- iCapital.Biz Lack Of Disclosure In Their Quarterly Earnings II
- iCapital.Biz Lack Of Disclosure In Their Quarterly Earnings III
- A Quick Look At iCapital's Annual Report 2008
Which ultimately lead me to iCapital's Investment In Axiata and iCapial And Their Potential 12 Million Ringgit Paper Losss In Axiata
The last posting iCapial And Their Potential 12 Million Ringgit Paper Losss In Axiata was written on 15 April 2009.
Now it's 25 June 2009. And if counting is not flawed, it's more than 2 months later.
On today's Edge Financial Edge, iCpaital made the 'shocking' announcement.
ICapital.Biz posts RM11.6m net loss in 4Q
LOL!
How ironic it was that last night I was COMPLAINING about Apollo Food Holdings dabbling in the share market and making peanuts from their playing in the share market. ( see A Look At How Apollo Food Holdings Dabble In The Share Market )
Well it looks like Apollo Food Holdings is an investing genius compared to iCapital! LOL!
Sorry that's rather wicked but there's some truth in it somewhere.
Ok humour aside but this event SHOWED clearly why iCapital needs to be more transparent. As said before the lack of details in their earnings notes was rather shocking.
And iCapital's losses in Axiata... much bigger than anticipated!
Also very ironic that in May 2009 Capital Dynamics Tan Teng Boo Now Claims That Markets Have Bottom Few Months Ago!
- KUALA LUMPUR: ICapital.Biz Bhd posted a net loss of RM11.60 million for the fourth quarter ended May 31, 2009 (4Q09) with negative revenue of RM11.83 million due to loss on disposal of investments of RM14.16 million.
In contrast, it reported a net profit of RM1.70 million on the back of RM3.69 million revenue for the previous corresponding period.
Its poor performance was mainly due to losses from selling shares of Axiata Group Bhd (formerly TM International Bhd) in 4Q, ICapital.Biz said in notes accompanying its financial results yesterday. It sold off all its Axiata shares and invested in Astro All Asia Networks plc instead.
ICapital.Biz’s net asset per share rose to RM1.42 from RM1.37 but its net asset value (NAV) declined by 9% to RM1.77 from RM1.95.
“As the company is a close-end fund, a better indication of its performance would be the movement of its NAV,” said ICapital.Biz.
Basic loss per share stood at 8.29 sen versus basic earnings per share of 1.21 sen in FY08.
No dividend was declared for the quarter.
For the full year, ICapital.Biz’s net profit plunged 84% to RM6.27 million from RM39.08 million. Revenue fell 75% to RM11.41 million from RM45.67 million previously.
Cash and cash equivalents for FY09 halved to RM37.44 million from RM61.23 million.
The company said its prospects were dependent on the performance of the stock markets, particularly where its investments were held.
Although the local stock market had rallied in recent months, it said the rise had lagged that of other markets.
This article appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, June 26, 2009.
Anyway, I decided to check out iCapital comments in its earnings notes.
And again, I find it so lacking.
Now the fund has lost a whopping 14 million in Axiata, which was slightly more than expected.
That iCapital did not bother to explain why it sold this innvestment is so shocking!
Comeon.. doesn't it think that the investing public has the right to know why it sold?
Show some respect, yes?
Tell the public why you sold.
And whatever happened to iCapital's so-called long term investing strategy?
And also what took it so long for iCapital to disclose this losses?
Two months is an awful looooong time in the investing world!
If I were an investor, I would be less than pleased!
How?
ps. the least I know on iCapital's commentary on Axiata was the following short note which a kaki posted for me back sometime in July 2008.
- Conclusion and Advice
At RM5.85, TMI is capitalised at RM21.9 bln. For this, what do investors get in return ? Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and Cambodia present TMI with a total untapped market potential of 280 mln subscribers. In the case of India, the potential is 860 mln subscribers. TMI’s venture in Iran and Pakistan could provide opportunities for TMI to take up interest in some of the cellular operators. The Iranian government’s intention to privatise MCCI could be one of such opportunities. Thus, one can see the potential that TMI is tapping into.
In many aspects, TMI is indeed a truly global company. In all the markets that TMI is in, TMI is competing head-on with the giants of the industry. As shown by the above analysis, most of its operations are competing well. Adding to its high growth assets are two strong cash generating companies, which are Celcom and M1 that will help to finance part of TMI’s cash needs.
In short, i Capital sees the recent plunge in TMI’s share price as not being in line with the group’s increasing attraction. Thus, i Capital revises its rating to a Buy for the longer term for TM International.
Disclosure of interest (required under the Capital Markets & Services Act): The publisher and associates have an interest in TM International.
12 comments:
This from their website:
"... i Capital provides investors with a sound framework ... built upon very comprehensive analysis... provides a clear perspective of how markets interact and ... translates the significance of events and interprets them in terms of the market."
Looks like a case of people believing in their own marketing literature. Its called DELUSION.
After reading your long long comment on iCapital, i still don't get your point!!!
Do you suggest one shouldn't invest on iCapital? If so, any better fund you can suggest???
Or, invest on our ownself??? Can you perform better than iCapital? I can't, and non of the people i know (amount my friend) can perform better than iCapital.
Need some good suggestion, rather than only comment. lol
Excellent work, Sherlock Moolah :)
Richard,
I still remember how iCapital declared Warren Buffett to be a lousy economist!!
lol.. best of all .. since when Buffett was an economist?
http://whereiszemoola.blogspot.com/2008/04/tan-teng-boo-declares-warren-buffett-to.html
Repost... too many typos earlier!
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Avatar,
The lact of respect from the fund manger by NOT explaning what has happened with their huge loss in Axiata is utterly shocking.
It is not acceptable at all.
A fund manager is there to manage the investors money. Less the fund manager forgets that it is because of the investors the fund exist. No fund investor means no business.
The investors is their customers.
Person like me, who ask all these questions, could also be a customer.
Hence, it's paramaount that the fund manger of this closed fund explains what had happened.
This is business 101.
Which is why I find that it's so unacceptable by not even attempting to explain their reason why they sold Axiata at a huge loss.
Well if they had made an investing mistake, no problem yes?
Everyone makes mistakes.
The very least iCapital can do is OWN up to this mistake and explain to the shareholders of this fund what exactly has happened.
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Boon2008,
Sorry I am a nobody.
Hence I don't think you want my advice. :)
Regrading iCapital.
People say they are good.
People say iCapital got great integrity.
Now you see all this.
Well if you are an investor, you should know what to do, yes?
:D
Dear Moolah,
Agreed. Unfortunately, it takes a very courageous and confident person to own up to their mistake. Something which is, unfortunately lacking in this case.
Rgds
Avatar,
Quote: "Unfortunately, it takes a very courageous and confident person to own up to their mistake. Something which is, unfortunately lacking in this case."
And sadly, the mistake hurts the fund and the shareholders!
Hi Moola,
Nice banging on TTB. He has some explaining to do and I believe he will.
Boon, who says iCapital is the best place to invest? They are good?
Yes, I will DIY, and I think I m quite certain I won't lose 79% of my capitals?
TEH
CP,
Banging? lol.
I am really sorry but that's not my intention.
Just sharing some opinions of mine. Opinions which could always be flawed.
Best place to invest?
I have no idea.
Food for thought.
Take a step back.
Assume that there's no iCap. Imagine only la. :p
And you meet someone named Sue who is known to be good in the sharemarket and she is known to invest for others too.
Now before giving her your money, what would you want of her?
Don't you want to know more of her?
Don't you want to invest your money with someone who is trustworthy? One who has integrity. One who you know would do their utter best to manage your money for you.
Don't you want her to be fully transparent.
ooh... that doesn't sound too good.
What I meant to say is, don't you want her to disclose more information so that you know what is happening?
Now look back.
What do you see in iCap?
Moola,
Yes, I do understand that. No one should follow anyone blindly. If it is a managed-fund(closed end), then he certainly answerable to his clients. We shall see ...
If iCap could give their clients good returns, everyone is happy. No one will question much about the 'small' loss. As long as in NET, we are profitting?
U done a good enquiry here and I m interested on how investors view such a huge loss. Was it a cut-loss? A forced sell? Huh?
TEH
CP,
hmmm... if you ask me... my guess would have been that icap did not want to subscribe to Axiata's rights issue.
And since it's a guess.. I could be wrong.
:D
I already stopped subscribing to iCapital's newsletter about a year ago. I realised at that time that some of the stock recommendation is not reliable and the newsletter is very expensive. Then I began to read some investment books and started my portfolio all over again without relying much on so-called experts advice. My portfolio is doing much better now =)
If you want to know what are the books, you can go to my blog http://bursawinners.blogspot.com
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